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Idiomatic expression

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(thing) by DarkZero (5 y) (print)   ?   (I like it!) Wed Jan 16 2002 at 10:11:45

An idiomatic expression is an expression whose meaning cannot be inferred from the meanings of the words that make it up. It is an expression that completely defies the rules and definitions of all of its grammatical and vocabulary components, and thus is one of the hardest parts of a language for a non-native speaker to learn.

One of the best examples of an idiomatic expression in the English language would be "get up". From the point of view of a native English speaker, "get up" is a command that tells you to stand. Think of it from the point of view of a non-native English speaker, though. Taken from its parts, which is how most non-native speakers would take it, the command is telling them to GET, as in "take" or "grasp", the direction "up". To the non-native speaker, this makes about as much sense as being told to "Hold south" or "Be west" would to you. As several of these mount upon the poor language student, they can become very confusing, because they deny all logic, as well as everything else that the student has been taught in the class.

The solution to the problem of the idiomatic expression has been, for the most part, for the language teacher to simply tell their students something along the lines of, "Trust me. Just write it down, memorize it, and try not to think about what the words really mean."


(idea) by baffo (4.1 wk) (print)   ?   (I like it!) Mon May 26 2003 at 20:59:59

One key aspect of the idiomatic expression is that it is difficult or impossible to use productively. For example, take the 'normal' expression the hamster is approximately potato sized. From it you can produce many others: the hamster is approximately olive sized, the hamster is approximately truck sized and no rodent or humans would be perturbed (though some would probably require a dash). They all make sense and require no stretching of imagination to be understood.

But take I want the hamster to stay at arm's length from me. You can't say *I want the hamster to stay at leg's length from me or *I want the hamster to stay at Cadillac's length from me. OK, you would be understood, but the expression would sound peculiar, stilted, maybe even humorous.

That's why "at arm's length" is an idiomatic expression.

Idiomatic expressions are also usually connected with some specific locale, often very small. One of the ways to tell a foreigner is from his choice of idiomatic expressions; it the second language has been learned, as is usually the case, from a patchwork of sources and teachers, the idioms don't form a consistent whole.

expressions marked with a * are not linguistically correct. Thanks to liveforever for corrections.


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