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Yudkowsky's Scale of Future Shock Levels

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(idea) by Saige (1.2 y) (print)   ?   2 C!s I like it! Wed Jul 05 2000 at 19:40:32

A description by Eliezer S. Yudkowsky as what he sees are the various Shock levels of possible future technology. He describes it as a way to measure what concepts people are comfortable with, and after determining that, what concepts they can be introduced to without running into a point where they become frightened of the ideas. The basic idea is that it's safe to introduce someone to ideas that are one level above where they're familiar.

To determine your level, consider the ideas presented in each group. If they seem inevitable, and give you no real worries about their development, then you've accepted that level. When you start considering the topics, and run into a strong, almost blind excitement, or strong "I don't want that to happen" fear, then that's above your current threshold.


(idea) by novalis (11.6 mon) (print)   ?   I like it! Thu Oct 05 2000 at 21:44:26

"If they seem inevitable" ... Heh, so to use this "scale", you have to already accepted transhumanist ideology. This scale says that you can't be said to understand the future unless you don't fear the (possible) consequences of future technological developement. That's bogus. Most people are likely to fear gray goo, even strongly. Yeah, that's one of the possible futures.

Also, you might not want people to lead entirely mind-oriented existences because you're stupid (But smart enough to know that you'll never have fun contemplating metaphysics). Or because you enjoy the physical. These would be reasonable fears.

(idea) by bitter_engineer (6.3 y) (print)   ?   I like it! Thu Oct 05 2000 at 22:12:27

Medical Immortality before nanotechnology? I would have guessed nanotechnology to be the eventual cause of medical immortality.

Interplanetary exploration is the same level as major genetic engineering? We were walking on other planetoids in the 60s, and exploring other planets in the '70s. And if he's talking about planets outside our solar system, my own bet is that we'd need to be extropian before we'd be able to make the voyage. Maybe I'm just being too pragmatic.

Then again, this is a comfort scale rather than a timeline. Maybe we will soon see the 'futsie's of the Judge Dredd comic books: people who have been driven to a nervous breakdown by their amazement at the incredible technologies of their own time.


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Jupiter Brain Apotheosis gray goo Singularity
futsie Singularitarian The Two Week Revolution Transhumanist Terminology
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brute force uploading Future shock technology singularity genetic engineering
uploading Judge Dredd David Bowie biochauvinism
Sestina for the Radiant Future Reflection, Refraction, and Chatty Scientists in the Arctic von Neumann machine kernel panic
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