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(thing) by Void_Ptr (1.6 mon) (print)   ?   I like it! Thu Jun 22 2000 at 15:21:33

The network of computers in the Terminator films which developed Sentience and started the first all out nuclear war when attempts were made to shut it down. The chip which Skynet runs was based on the ruins of the first Terminator sent back in time to kill Sarah Connor and is therefore based on a paradox.

(idea) by herbman (3.2 y) (print)   ?   I like it! Thu Jun 22 2000 at 15:34:50

Skynet was developed by Cyberdyne systems, and becomes self aware in August of 1997. It's funny that no one in the movies ever questioned the paradox of making something from a chip that didn't exist yet.

(thing) by Albert Herring (10.1 hr) (print)   ?   I like it! Sun Jan 07 2001 at 0:01:10

In Belgium, the country's largest ISP, a subsidiary of the phone company. Nuff said. Except that their major competitor is the French phone company's ISP, the absurdly named Wanadoo, who are even worse. So much for the Single Market.

Their primary domain is skynet.be but due to a (latterly rationalised) rather over-complex marketing strategy they are also responsible for belgacom.net ("free" - i.e. call charges only - mass-market accounts). Encroaching liberalisation means that they are no longer the only ISP in the country providing DSL, although most or all other providers' DSL packages are still basically Belgacom services resold.


(idea) by wilsone8 (1.5 y) (print)   ?   I like it! Mon Feb 02 2004 at 2:27:47

As mentioned in a few of the writeups, Skynet is a paradox (it is never invented in the timeline). What they fail to mention is that Skynet HAD to send back the original Terminator in order to be created. In fact, given the information available it is almost certain that Skynet would HAVE to have been aware of the fact the first terminator that it sent back would be destroyed. But that leads to another paradox. Clearly, Skynet lives in a physics model where the future (and the past) cannot be modified. That is, all time travel does is ensure that the present (from the time travelers perspective) does not change. So Skynet is wasting resources sending terminators back in time. If one of them had suceeded, Skynet would not be fighting the resistance leader in the future.

(idea) by metalangel (58.3 min) (print)   ?   I like it! Tue Dec 14 2004 at 16:59:14

Skynet's timeline in The Terminator movies can be modified. After all, August 29, 1997 never became the bad fucking day for everyone not wearing 3 million sunblock that the second movie told us. After all (and I do warn of spoilers), Arnie tells John Connor that Judgement Day cannot be prevented, only delayed.

Perhaps this was done to appease fans of the Dark Horse comics who wondered how John could still be a teenager in the year 2000. But then, Terminator 2 was 1992, eight years after 1984, and yet John was about twelve years old. The plot begins to have more holes than Arnie's leather jacket.

However, Skynet is not wasting resources per se by sending back the first Terminator - as, without the first Terminator, Skynet would never have been built based on the chip design. The first Terminator is, in fact, to ensure Skynet's existence in the future.

The real question arises when you ask whether Skynet ever gets destroyed, eventually.

The Terminator 2029 games by Bethesda Softworks claimed that, once Skynet (which in their view was a space station) blew up, a secondary backup system activated.

Kyle Reese in the first movie claimed that the Resistance had won and Skynet, desperate, sent back the first Terminator.

But Terminator 3: Not Even Fan Service seems to blow these out of the water a bit, unless the one future sequence of John standing atop wreckage with a tattered American flag is meant to indicate they do eventually win.

This in turn raises the question, why does Skynet even bother, if it knows all it will achieve by starting the war is ravaging the planet for three decades?


(thing) by Osmosis (5.8 d) (print)   ?   I like it! Mon Feb 21 2005 at 21:38:05


Skynet is the name of the British satellite based military communications system. It has had several incarnations, the current generation of which is Skynet 4. The first Skynet satellite was launched in 1969. It is used by all three arms of the British armed forces - the British Army, the Royal Navy and Royal Air Force - as well as the Foreign and Commonwealth Office, the British eavesdropping agency GCHQ, the Secret Intelligence Service and the Security Service.

The system is based around a number of geosynchronous satellites which relay encrypted signals from ground stations, ships, and between each other. Each successive Skynet satellite is designated with its generation and an alphabetic character - Skynet 4E, for example.

Skynet began in the mid-1960s, when Chief of the Defence Staff Lord Mountbatten recommended that the three armed forces use one single communications system. A key figure in its early life was Wing Commander Frank Padfield, later to become an Air Commodore. As a technically competent radar and guided weapons instructor at the RAF Technical College, in 1967 he was assigned to begin work on the project of merging the disparate networks. He joined a 30-man team at the then Ministry of Technology. As Skynet operational programmes director for the Ministry of Defence (MoD), Padfield had to coordinate the work in both departments with strict deadlines and a £26m budget.

While his team was proficient and professional, Padfield's main problem was in dealing with entrenched bureaucracy and inter-service rivalry. The MoD was opposed to the project in principle, as was the RAF, which remained bitterly hostile because it held sole control of the existing British high frequency communications system.

Despite this, the first Skynet 1 satellite was launched on 22nd November 1969 from Cape Canaveral. Built by Ford Aerospace, it weighed 422kg and resembled nothing more than a huge zoetrope. Reports differ over Skynet 1A's fate. Some accounts describe nine years of active service, which would have far exceeded its expected life, but others suggest it failed prematurely. Skynet 1B was launched on 19th August 1970, but at least here sources are in agreement that it failed to reach its geosynchronous position, becoming stranded in a lower orbit when a rocket motor malfunctioned.

Skynet 2 satellites were spin-stabilised, weighed 240kg and used two communications bands, 20MHz and 2MHz. In appearance, they, again, were large drum-shaped constructions, although they were smaller than the first van-sized modules. This second programme began unsuccessfully in 1974 with the loss of Skynet 2A following another launch malfunction. Skynet 2B, however, worked perfectly, and amazingly was still in service 20 years later.

There was never a Skynet 3, and, despite my best efforts, I have been unable to find out why. Which is vaguely frustrating.

Skynet 4, however, is currently in use by the British services. It was built by British defence contractor British Aerospace (now BAe Systems). The first three units were deployed successively throughout 1988-1990 by the American Titan 3 rocket (4A) and the European Arianne (4B and 4C). Designed to last only seven years, they included hugely improved electronics, jam-resistance and 16-foot solar panels as well as multichannel X-band, EHF and UHF band transponders. In 1998-99, as 4A-4C began to reach the end of their working life, NASA kindly lifted three more birds for the MoD. 4D-4F are of the same generation but have been reworked by contractors Matra Marconi Space (now part of sprawling European contractor EADS Space). Their incremental improvements include hardening against EMP, further jam-resistance and directable antennae for tactical purposes.

The Skynet 4 constellation are now reaching their final days, and so the MoD has been waving vast contracts for the next generation of satcoms platforms at aerospace contractors since early 2002. Skynet 5 is still two to three years from being deployed, but will have the singular distinction of being the world's only outsourced military communications network. The MoD awarded the contract to build the satellites to EADS Space and another contract to run and maintain them to Paradigm Secure Communications, a wholly owned EADS subsidiary; the MoD will, in effect, pay to lease the satellites' use. This is an example of the British Government's Private Finance Initiative (PFI) at work, and indeed Skynet 5 is the largest PFI contract yet awarded. The tangled, incestuous web of defence contracts and sub-contracts sees EADS subsidiary Paradigm awarding a sub-contract for upgrading ground control stations and naval communications to ... EADS Space.



"BAe battles for £2.5bn MoD contract". The Sunday Telegraph, 24 Feb 2002

David Hastings' Comsats Page, http://users.ox.ac.uk/~daveh/Space/Military/milspace_comsat.html

"EADS in Britain's biggest PFI deal with MoD". The Times, 25 October 2003

Obituary, Frank Padfield CBE. The Guardian, 13 Feb 2004

"Paradigm awarded Skynet 5 contract", Paradigm Communications. http://www.paradigmsecure.com/?OBH=30&ID=27

"Skynet", Federation of American Scientists. http://www.fas.org/spp/guide/uk/military/comm/index.html

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